Episode 200 - bonus

Why does GoTennis! exist?

Published on: 11th March, 2023

Episode#:200 Shaun Boyce and Bobby Schindler

Why does GoTennis! exist?

Shaun and Bobby explain the reason for GoTennis!' existence

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Transcript
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Why are we doing this?

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Why gotennis?

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And we have agreed on what the problem is as we define it.

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I'll give our official answer, which is the industry, meaning the tennis industry in Atlanta.

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The industry is plagued by segregated calendars, overpriced middlemen, and a disjointed

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community of social tennis players and vendors.

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The culture includes hyper-competitive tennis coaches and vendors. It includes cash-first transactions

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and a zero-sum game mentality, which discourages industry cooperation.

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So Bobby, how would you describe that problem in depth to the listener?

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Well, I think you're always going to look at an origin point.

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ALTA was created back in the day.

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And I think this is the origin story that the Atlanta City lost a professional tournament

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back in the 70s to a different city because they weren't organized enough.

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And a couple of individuals sat down and said, "We're never going to make this another

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little out of this app."

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And again, and let's create essentially what we're thinking about doing a place that people

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recreational players can get involved in tennis.

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What ALTA morphed into was a league.

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The league and the unprecedented growth of the city of Atlanta in the '90s, in the early 2000s,

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and the continues today, and ALTA became this gigantic entity that just could not,

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as you said, could not do everything that probably it initially wanted to, was very smart

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and they identified, well, that's wrong the league.

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But it is left a big void on a lot of different bases.

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Maybe the first one to tell you, look, we can't help you find a team.

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We can point you in different directions, but we don't have that ability.

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That's not what we do.

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We run a league.

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We can't run junior tournaments per se.

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We don't look into how to help your junior player get into colleges.

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We don't associate with clubs.

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It's very disjointed.

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And then you factor in the USTA, which, you know, that's a debate for another day.

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But probably from a leadership standpoint, doesn't necessarily, it's conflicted between whether

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there the organization that is supposed to grow the game of tennis or the organization that

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is supposed to produce the next Pete Samprass or Andre Agassi.

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And that leads to a lot of going nowhere, because we're never sure what we're supposed to be.

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So again, we're looking at this saying, okay, there's obviously a tremendous opportunity

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at land, there's 80,000 recreational tennis players that are registered to play out.

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T2 has done a fantastic job addressing the flexible play league, the people that can't be

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on such a right or don't want to be on such a regimented schedule.

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But it started off as a great idea.

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And I always equate this coming from the R. guys say, "Alta is a bowling league where I grew

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up."

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It's just that Atlanta has much better weather.

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So we were able to do the bowling league outside, but they tapped into a social base.

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They provided adults commonality, which as you get older, it's hard to make friendships,

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because you don't share the commonality of all going to the same school or all going

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to the same practice.

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Well now all of a sudden, tennis became such a dominant player that we did have commonality,

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but it's been unable to step out beyond that commonality to build other things.

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And again, as an aging person in the city of Atlanta who used to go to a bar kid, but I'll

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grew that.

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And now listen, I still want to social life.

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I still want to do things.

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Where do I do that?

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And I just think that that's an opportunity.

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We know we have commonality.

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We can start with tennis.

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As we say, it starts with tennis.

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Where does it end up?

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That's what we're trying to find out.

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And that's what we're trying to provide.

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And the hyper competitiveness of the industry itself from the coaches and the zero-sum game mentality.

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How do we, how is GoTennis targeting that culture change to be able to help in that way?

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Yeah, we discussed this a lot.

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How do we do it?

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How do we get everybody excited about the project as we are?

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And the hard part is it's going to take time.

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It's going to take people, getting involved.

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I just know with the people that work for me.

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First of all, I think it's probably culturally or clinical psychologist somebody can come in and

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say, look, the tennis player who reached this down kind of level that is now capable of teaching

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it.

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Tennis is a solitary sport.

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You're doing it alone.

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You're out there competing alone.

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There is not the team environment that others sport.

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So I think culturally right away, you've been raised a little bit different than somebody

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who had to survive in a team sport.

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And I think that translates and as we spoke, I find it far more fun when I'm coaching XDU,

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when I'm coaching XDF ad, when I'm coaching XDGRAG, when I'm coaching XDTN because we

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share each other's energy.

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If we're having a good time with each other, we believe that translates into the energy on

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the players.

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That's why we believe even though we're in coming, we get folks from Marietta driving

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to our drills because it's fun.

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You're going to go out there, you're going to listen to music.

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It's going to be an environment that doesn't take itself real seriously.

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It's there to maximize everybody's time together, try to accomplish something, improve obviously,

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but in an environment that fosters that and you look forward to coming back because like anything

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else, you want to just talk about it on the improvement level.

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You're never going to get better if you don't do it.

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You won't do it if it's not fun.

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So if we need you to come out and enjoy yourself and want to come back, well you're going

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to improve despite of us a lot of times.

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Hey, even if you're not the greatest coach, but that's the kind of thing we want to try to overcome.

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But it's going to take time.

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I truly believe it's going to take people seeing it, getting involved with this realizing

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these guys aren't lying.

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They're not trying to steal my business.

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To me, there's plenty of business for everybody.

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If we make it simpler and we provide access to more income streams, everybody who

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make more money too and doing it in a hopefully a fun way beyond just the court.

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Atlanta Tennis Podcast
It Starts With Tennis...
The tagline is “It Starts With Tennis…” and goes from there. We talk with tennis coaches, club managers, tennis industry business professionals, tennis technology experts and anyone else interesting wanting to have a conversation starting with tennis. We might not end up talking about tennis but that’s where it all begins.

Contact Shaun: shaun@tennisforchildren.com

Contact Bobby: schindlerb@comcast.net

About your hosts

Shaun Boyce

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Certified by the USPTA, I have more than 25 years experience coaching tennis players as well as other coaches. An inventive mind with cutting edge ideas allows me to accumulate conventional wisdom and apply it to the modern business practices of the future.

Taking my coaching to the next level is always on the calendar including coFounding projects like reGeovinate, creating the Education Support Network to help families during the Covid pandemic, as well as starting the International Tennis Initiative which takes Tennis for Children to Ecuador.

Bobby Schindler

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Bobby has been involved in the Atlanta tennis scene for more than twenty five years. He co-founded Promotional Tennis Management with Dennis Hord which would later become ERS Tennis. ERS Tennis specializes in facility management, event creation and staging, marketing and professional instruction. ERS has managed Chartwell and St. Marlo subdivisions, Olde Towne Club in Duluth and is currently at Windermere subdivsion in Cumming, GA.
ERS has administered clinics for the Atlanta Thunder formerly of World Team Tennis, the ATP Tour and the Worldwide Senior Tour featuring Jimmy Connors.
Bobby is proud of having assisted Northside Hospital create their Breast Cancer Awareness Day held annually throughout metro-Atlanta.
Bobby was the tennis director at White Columns Country Club for thirteen years, is a USPTA certified professional and a member of the GPTA.
Bobby has been involved on the business side of the tennis industry having relationships with professional events in Georgia, Florida and South Carolina. He has also worked with Premier Tennis Travel host's of the world's most exclusive tennis pro-am held annually on Sir Richard Branson's private island Necker.
Bobby partnered Cadillac with the WTA Family Circle event in Charleston, South Carolina for two years and with the Rafa Nadal exhibition held in Gwinnett, Georgia in 2020.
He was the court-side announcer for the Atlanta Thunder of World Team Tennis and the Atlanta stop on the Worldwide Senior Tour.
Bobby received his undergraduate degrees from Texas Christian University, Masters from Georgia State University and is Dad to EmilyRose.
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Geovanna Boyce

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FITNESS PROFESSIONAL
I have been training and coaching clients through private and group classes for the past 20 years! As a dancer, lifelong fitness and wellness advocate I found in Pilates the perfect balance between mind and body.
Known to my clients as "Coach Geovi," my interdisciplinary knowledge, experience and passion is going to inspire you, motivate you, and give you all the tools to achieve your individual fitness and wellness goals.

PILATES TRAINING AND CERTIFICATIONS
I became a certified Instructor with AFPA and has trained and worked with internationally recognized institutions and instructors, in combination with my passion to help and guide others, it has become my life mission, to help others in their journey to achieve optimal fitness and overall wellness independently of their fitness level. Holding an international Pilates Mat and Apparatus certification with Centro Zen Pilates, Zumba and Reiki healing training and certifications as well, my personal and individual approach to mind and body conditioning makes my clients more aware of their own body’s needs and how to optimize every single movement to their full benefit.

PERSONAL LIFE
Born and raised in Ecuador, I moved to the US when I was 24 years old and eventually found my passion for Pilates sending me into the journey of fitness and wellness. I had the great opportunity to homeschool our two children, Colette is a graduate from Duke University and Michael is a Lance Corporal in the Marine Corps. I have been blessed with wonderful children and an amazing husband, whose love and support are my inspiration. In October 2022 we welcomed Geovanni Shaun Boyce to our family.